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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:12 am
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hokan wrote:
Some folks seem to not understand why locking the back wheel through the rear triangle is good.

Imaging how long it would take to cut through the rim and tire. It'd probably be easier to cut the lock.


Imagine how much longer it would take to cut through the frame as well as the tire.

It's not that it isn't good enough. It's just that it could be better very easily.


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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:30 am
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It would have been about as easy to put the cable lock through the rear wheel, and U-bolt the frame.



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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 12:10 pm
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Jerbear wrote:
someone could potentially cut through your rim and tire and steal the rest of the bike.
Sheldon Brown wrote:
Some will object that felons might cut the rear rim and tire to remove the lock. Believe me, this just doesn't happen in the real world. First, this would be a lot of work to steal a frame without a useable rear wheel, the most expensive part of a bike, after the frame. Second, cutting the rear rim is much harder than you might think. Since the rim is under substantial compression due to the tension on the spokes, it would pinch a hacksaw blade tight as soon as it cut partway through. Then there are the wire beads of the tire, also difficult to cut.


ETA: whoops, didn't see this had been covered. Oh well, this is out of Sheldon's mouth, at least.



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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:41 pm
User avatarSecret: wants a tall bikeJoined: Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:06 amPosts: 422Location: South Minneapolis - Central
I think Snak Shak's locking method looks good.
I use Kryptonite locking wheel skewers and just U-lock my down tube to the bike rack/post. Anyone see a problem with that?
Thanks, Bill.


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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:43 pm
Better to have Bikeloved and lost than never to have Bikeloved at allJoined: Tue May 29, 2007 9:22 pmPosts: 2719Location: Golden Valley
Really depends on the size of your lock. You don't want a big lock and plenty of space inside the lock for leverage.


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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:53 pm
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bc3 wrote:
I think Snak Shak's locking method looks good.
I use Kryptonite locking wheel skewers and just U-lock my down tube to the bike rack/post. Anyone see a problem with that?
Thanks, Bill.


I thought about that, but the Pitlock skewers cost as much or more than the wheels on the bikes I ride for everyday use, so I gave up on that idea and went lock-and-cable. If I rode more expensive wheels on my daily bike, I would do that, though.



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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:01 pm
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kuando wrote:
Really depends on the size of your lock. You don't want a big lock and plenty of space inside the lock for leverage.

It is a big lock, Kryptonite Evolution long shackle. About 4" x 11" inner dimension.
So are you saying I should get a smaller lock? Narrower, or shorter, or both?
What size is recommended?
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:16 pm
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Go for the shortest lock you can. I have a krypto mini that's a little too small for many applications, so I use the next bigger size. With the longer locks, it's possible to fit a scissor jack inside and pry them apart. That's harder to do with a small lock.



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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:20 pm
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Snak Shak wrote "I thought about that, but the Pitlock skewers cost as much or more than the wheels on the bikes I ride for everyday use, so I gave up on that idea and went lock-and-cable. If I rode more expensive wheels on my daily bike, I would do that, though.[/quote]
You might want to check these out: http://store.comcycle-usa.com/Wheelgood ... tInfo.aspx
If you enlarge the pic and look at the hex key, they seem to use a security hex bolt, the kind with the little pin in the center.
Or these: http://store.comcycle-usa.com/Wheelgood ... tInfo.aspx
By the way, I bought my Kryptonite wheel skewers a few years back on eBay for about $35.
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:24 pm
Better to have Bikeloved and lost than never to have Bikeloved at allJoined: Tue May 29, 2007 9:22 pmPosts: 2719Location: Golden Valley
Take one of these blacksmith puzzle things, attach one end to a post and one end to your bike frame. Of course it has to be of sufficient size, but I wonder if someone could do something like that for a bicycle.



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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 10:47 am
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Lock every component up.



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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 10:57 am
Better to have Bikeloved and lost than never to have Bikeloved at allJoined: Tue May 29, 2007 9:22 pmPosts: 2719Location: Golden Valley
omgmrj wrote:


Wow that website is un-navigable.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:37 am
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This forum made me a little paranoid, so I bought new short shackle U-locks. A Kryptonite New York Mini and an Evolution 5 Mini. I have Kryptonite locking skewers on my wheels and seatpost. I also put ball bearings with fingernail polish in my headset, riser, handlebar clamp, and seat clamp socket heads. So I think I'm good to go now with just using the short shackle U-locks to lock up my frame to a post. In daylight. In high traffic areas. OK, I'm good now.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:00 am
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Here's a link sea.kat posted to fill out a police report online.

http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/police/e-report/prequalification.asp

Should your bike get stolen, make sure and file a report.



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