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Summerinside
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 Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:33 am |
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Lindenblossom wrote: Parenthood is a choice. An awesome choice! (for some)
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Summerinside
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:35 am |
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| Banana Seat AficianadoJoined: Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:03 pmPosts: 1873Location: Page
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Radlerin wrote: reptile wrote: thanks for the answers...my Y chromosome lacks the knowledge of this kind of stuff. I didn't know jack about this stuff until I needed to. Unless someone is really a planner, ladies are probably not shopping for maternity leave plans when they look for a job. I started this job 4 years ago, when maternity was not at all on the radar. +1 We were really lucky for Elliot - Ameriprise allows the fullly-paid 12 weeks of maternity leave, and Capella provides a fully-paid 2 week paternity leave as well. Then I'll be burning a bunch of PTO as well around the time Jodi transitions back to work. It's a really nice benefit.
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poorimpulsecontrol
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:18 am |
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| EscapeeJoined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:32 pmPosts: 2473Location: MINNEAPOLIS
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Kind of appalled at where this thread went with regards to child choices. This thread is about MATERNITY/PATERNITY LEAVE. not whether people should or should not have kids. Not whether there should or should not be child free areas of public entertainment.
If y'all want to bitch about whether you should or should not have children it's my opinion that you take it elsewhere.
For those of you wondering about how to change maternity/paternity leave policies. You can advocate for changes to employment laws with your congresspeople and at the Legislature. There is a workers rights clinic at the U of M lawschool where you can also get advice. In addition you can get information from the Department of Labor as to your employee rights by calling 651-284-5005.
If you are out of work or on an unpaid leave, and in need of food/medical or financial assistance you can apply for public benefits at hennepin county by calling 612-596-1300. (the benefits amounts are NOT GREAT AT ALL but anything is better than nothing)
@ Radlerin. Some companies offer a vacation/sick pool where employees can donate un-used time to people who need it. Maybe your company would be interested in having that available to expectant parents.
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Radlerin
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:18 am |
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 Dances on the pedals in a most immodest wayJoined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:03 pmPosts: 5567Location: Funkytown
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Lindenblossom wrote: Radlerin wrote: Getting back to the subject at hand, I was pretty appalled to find out that the maternity leave policy is 6 weeks unpaid at my mostly-women workplace.  If you want to extend your leave to 12 weeks, your entire remaining PTO (vacation & sick time combined) is absorbed within the second 6 weeks.  So, after the birth, don't plan on getting sick, tending to a sick kid, or taking any time off to catch your breath!! Ugh. Parenthood is a choice. Yep, and one I made, but it's also a choice that the majority of my co-workers (and others) will make. For a company that has stellar coverage in other benefit areas, I found this policy (and the American system in general) pretty lacking. And a reminder- this thread was inquiring about maternity leave policies, so it's not really a debate about choosing to have children vs. remaining child-free. Edit: I wrote that last sentence before seeing poorimpulsecontrol's post. 
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phaedrus
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:51 pm |
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When one looks at the importance of parenting during early childhood and compares the difference in maternity and paternity coverage in many European countries versus America, it becomes pretty easy to see where a lot of our social ills get started.
When most new parents can't spend that important time with their kids (and getting a bit of rest), the rest of society will end up paying sooner or later.
Penny wise and pound foolish.
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euterpe
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:17 pm |
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 I know this guy who named his dog MerckxJoined: Wed May 23, 2007 7:51 pmPosts: 2608Location: Hamline-Midway
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ha, I just wanted to rile you all up. mission accomplished.
now back to enjoying my shitty american maternity leave before my husband goes to work (4 days after baby) not enjoying his even shittier american paternity leave.
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Radlerin
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:35 pm |
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| Dances on the pedals in a most immodest wayJoined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:03 pmPosts: 5567Location: Funkytown
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euterpe wrote: ha, I just wanted to rile you all up. mission accomplished.
Nope! 
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Reverborama
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:35 pm |
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phaedrus wrote: When one looks at the importance of parenting during early childhood and compares the difference in maternity and paternity coverage in many European countries versus America, it becomes pretty easy to see where a lot of our social ills get started. My mom stayed home with me. How do you explain how I turned out?
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lowrah
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:44 am |
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 Rides in bad weather just to taunt those who won'tJoined: Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:00 amPosts: 1460Location: P-horn
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I appreciate this thread, mommas and poppas.
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HerculesTRockefeller
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:02 pm |
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 My middle name is SchwinnJoined: Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:12 pmPosts: 4094Location: Quoting Lebowski.
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I'm sick of people getting all butthurt when a thread strays from the original topic and perhaps includes opinions not their own. Information is not linear, it's a web. You pull at one strand (or jerk, as euterpe, and often I, do), you're likely to disturb many other strands.
From what I've seen, feminism can withstand a little internal dissonance.
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poorimpulsecontrol
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:22 am |
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| EscapeeJoined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:32 pmPosts: 2473Location: MINNEAPOLIS
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HerculesTRockefeller wrote: I'm sick of people getting all butthurt when a thread strays from the original topic and perhaps includes opinions not their own. Information is not linear, it's a web. You pull at one strand (or jerk, as euterpe, and often I, do), you're likely to disturb many other strands.
From what I've seen, feminism can withstand a little internal dissonance. I agree with you. However, this thread was created to discuss maternity/paternity leave. When the conversations moves from that subject into the topic of children rearing, and the dichotomy between people who have chosen to have children and those who have not we lose sight of the main issue which is maternity/paternity leave. Posters who wish to start a dialogue regarding other topics are welcome to create those threads and carry on conversations in them. This allows everyone to be able to have a constructive and respectful discourse.
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dasunt
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:02 am |
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 Has recurring nightmare of descending Ramsey Hill no-handedJoined: Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:00 amPosts: 4404Location: Whipping Cult Central
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Hasn't the OP's question about maternity leave being paid or unpaid already been answered?
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Lindenblossom
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| Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:29 pm |
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 Thinks "false flat" means low tire pressureJoined: Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:53 pmPosts: 329Location: The whipping cult town
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poorimpulsecontrol wrote:
[T]his thread was created to discuss maternity/paternity leave. When the conversations moves from that subject into the topic of children rearing, and the dichotomy between people who have chosen to have children and those who have not we lose sight of the main issue which is maternity/paternity leave. Posters who wish to start a dialogue regarding other topics are welcome to create those threads and carry on conversations in them. This allows everyone to be able to have a constructive and respectful discourse. Fair enough, and I take responsibility for the somewhat (but not completely) off-topic yet good-natured reply I made to the OP back in July. However, the least constructive turn came about when another poster resurrected the thread over two months later, apparently with no other purpose than to be hurtful, or to "rile us all up".
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bgodar
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:17 pm |
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Hi all, I'm a reporter at the University of Minnesota working on a story about maternity leave right now. I realize this thread has wandered off topic a bit, but would any of you who have not received (or have received) maternity leave be willing to do an interview? I would love to tell a mother's story about how this has affected her and bring light to the general issue. If you're interested, please contact me asap at bryna.godar@gmail.com. Cheers, Bryna
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