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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:54 pm
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jim_h wrote:
bjorn wrote:
The left-side lanes were some of the first lanes that Minneapolis striped. The original concern was bus traffic, IIRC


I don't see the connection with bus traffic.
Here's the case study, guys.
I thought I remember reading over a year ago that Minneapolis pioneered the left-hand bike lane mainly as a measure against driver's-side dooring. Looks like there's other reasons though.



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:39 pm
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Rode Bryant twice in the last couple of days and had pushy drivers right on my @ss the whole time, just like the old days. I think the problem is that the green paint is now pretty much gone and with it went our claim to the lane. I realize this was an experiment, and I'd say the results are in: sharrows plus a wide green stripe significantly change the game; sharrows alone do not.



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:46 pm
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It's been pointed out in the past that going over them when they are glowing gives you a temporary speed boost.



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:40 am
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HerculesTRockefeller wrote:
It's been pointed out in the past that going over them when they are glowing gives you a temporary speed boost.


Well, there you go. At least they have some value then!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:45 am
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castiron wrote:
I ride the LH lanes on 10th ST and 6th St near daily. Both are with the flow of traffic.
The 10th ST one abruptly ends much the same way the old one on Hennepin did. The new one on 6th leaves you trapped between a concrete wall and 3+ lanes of freeway bound traffic.

Seriously, who thinks of this shit? :yuck:


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:50 am
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Stoller wrote:
castiron wrote:
I ride the LH lanes on 10th ST and 6th St near daily. Both are with the flow of traffic.
The 10th ST one abruptly ends much the same way the old one on Hennepin did. The new one on 6th leaves you trapped between a concrete wall and 3+ lanes of freeway bound traffic.

Seriously, who thinks of this shit? :yuck:


Non-cyclists.



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:47 pm
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Stoller wrote:
castiron wrote:
I ride the LH lanes on 10th ST and 6th St near daily. Both are with the flow of traffic.
The 10th ST one abruptly ends much the same way the old one on Hennepin did. The new one on 6th leaves you trapped between a concrete wall and 3+ lanes of freeway bound traffic.

Seriously, who thinks of this shit? :yuck:


Non-cyclists.



Actually, most of the times I've seen these things happen, it started out as part of a bigger, good plan, and then the various committee processes involved either broke it up into segments, some of which never happened, or got rid of some part of the project that left us with something depressingly awful.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:33 pm
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I do think cycling on Bryant has increased and consequently has reduced some auto traffic on Bryant. To the novice I think sharrows do offer some extra confidence to not ride right against the curb. I find them a bigger reminder to cyclists that cyclists can be in the road.

I do understand the argument that it may give drivers the impression that cyclists shouldn't be on other roads ie. Lyndale, but I do believe that it is in fact, the safer route with the exception of the stupid ass waste of money "historic" bridge over the creek that they couldn't widen to allow for bike traffic because of its so-called historic value and has a stop sign at the bottom of significant hill of potholes. Lyndale bridge you can't get finished quick enough.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:28 pm
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suspeckted wrote:
I do understand the argument that it may give drivers the impression that cyclists shouldn't be on other roads ie. Lyndale...


This sort of driver will think this regardless of what we paint on the road. It's not like the presence of controlled-access freeways gave anybody the impression that they were the only place were cars could drive. These drivers are simply ignorant and incompetent.



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